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		<title>By: Young Lee</title>
		<link>http://alisothegeek.com/2009/07/im-officially-a-big-nerd-i-have-the-t-shirt-to-prove-it/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Young Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 11:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alison,

Thanks for your reply! You got really good point about networking. True, it might be as important as training itself. I&#039;ll keep that in my mind. The book is pretty good. I am going through  chapter by chapter now. It is very different experience since my job is very different environment. I am working with embedded system in straight C. No GUI, of course not ..  :-)

I am currently going though chpater 4 on the book.  So far so good.. Just like what you suggested, I will try to finish this book by myself to see how far I can make it w/o help. Thanks again for sharing your thought! It was very helpful.

Yeah, I&#039;ll let you know how my study (and traing if I ended up going there ) goes...

Young</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alison,</p>
<p>Thanks for your reply! You got really good point about networking. True, it might be as important as training itself. I&#8217;ll keep that in my mind. The book is pretty good. I am going through  chapter by chapter now. It is very different experience since my job is very different environment. I am working with embedded system in straight C. No GUI, of course not ..  <img src='http://alisothegeek.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I am currently going though chpater 4 on the book.  So far so good.. Just like what you suggested, I will try to finish this book by myself to see how far I can make it w/o help. Thanks again for sharing your thought! It was very helpful.</p>
<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ll let you know how my study (and traing if I ended up going there ) goes&#8230;</p>
<p>Young</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://alisothegeek.com/2009/07/im-officially-a-big-nerd-i-have-the-t-shirt-to-prove-it/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 02:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Young,

I understand your dilemma—the BNR does have a high price tag, and the book is based on the course itself. I would say that the experience of actually being there was worth every penny. However, you can always buy the book, see how you do with it, and then make the decision after that. If the book teaches you enough that you get to make the app you want, then maybe you can use the earnings from your first app to pay for the BNR!

Beyond the learning, the BNR was an awesome networking opportunity. Being with 17 other people in the same boat as you means you end the week with 17 new people to turn to when you have questions or ideas about iPhone programming. I still get plenty of emails from the people in my class who want to share their new app with everyone, who have a programming problem they can&#039;t figure out, or who have an idea for a new app and want some feedback.

Long story short: I&#039;d buy the book first and work through it, then I&#039;d sign up for the class (whether it&#039;s a week after you finish the book, or a year later). There&#039;s so much material they cover in that week that it would be really helpful to read their book first anyway.

Good luck! Let me know how it goes!
-Alison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Young,</p>
<p>I understand your dilemma—the BNR does have a high price tag, and the book is based on the course itself. I would say that the experience of actually being there was worth every penny. However, you can always buy the book, see how you do with it, and then make the decision after that. If the book teaches you enough that you get to make the app you want, then maybe you can use the earnings from your first app to pay for the BNR!</p>
<p>Beyond the learning, the BNR was an awesome networking opportunity. Being with 17 other people in the same boat as you means you end the week with 17 new people to turn to when you have questions or ideas about iPhone programming. I still get plenty of emails from the people in my class who want to share their new app with everyone, who have a programming problem they can&#8217;t figure out, or who have an idea for a new app and want some feedback.</p>
<p>Long story short: I&#8217;d buy the book first and work through it, then I&#8217;d sign up for the class (whether it&#8217;s a week after you finish the book, or a year later). There&#8217;s so much material they cover in that week that it would be really helpful to read their book first anyway.</p>
<p>Good luck! Let me know how it goes!<br />
-Alison</p>
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		<title>By: Young Lee</title>
		<link>http://alisothegeek.com/2009/07/im-officially-a-big-nerd-i-have-the-t-shirt-to-prove-it/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Young Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 01:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alison,

It&#039;s nice to see your experience in BNR. I was wondering what would be like to get a training in BNR.

I have a question very similar to Mike. BNR recently released the book about iphone programming:

http://www.bignerdranch.com/book/iphone_programming_the_big_nerd_ranch_guide

Based on your blog and course syllabus in BNR web site, this book has very similar content to your iphone training portion. Do you think it is still worth it to go to training even after you finish the book? Of course, nothing beats from having face to face interaction with actual authors. However, training also has big price tag as well. :)  What do you think about the difference in your learning if similar material was given to you in terms of book format?  I just want to know your thought on this.

Thanks!
Young</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alison,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice to see your experience in BNR. I was wondering what would be like to get a training in BNR.</p>
<p>I have a question very similar to Mike. BNR recently released the book about iphone programming:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bignerdranch.com/book/iphone_programming_the_big_nerd_ranch_guide" rel="nofollow">http://www.bignerdranch.com/book/iphone_programming_the_big_nerd_ranch_guide</a></p>
<p>Based on your blog and course syllabus in BNR web site, this book has very similar content to your iphone training portion. Do you think it is still worth it to go to training even after you finish the book? Of course, nothing beats from having face to face interaction with actual authors. However, training also has big price tag as well. <img src='http://alisothegeek.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   What do you think about the difference in your learning if similar material was given to you in terms of book format?  I just want to know your thought on this.</p>
<p>Thanks!<br />
Young</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://alisothegeek.com/2009/07/im-officially-a-big-nerd-i-have-the-t-shirt-to-prove-it/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 12:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alison,

Thanks for sharing your experience. Many times you hear about training and wonder if it&#039;s worth the money. You helped illuminate the answer for me.   I recently switched from PCs to a old (1st gen) Macbook Pro and love it.  I&#039;m a VoIP/Asterisk guy and now I&#039;m starting to learn coding for the iPhone. Books are nice, but real face to face learning with people who are passionate and knowledgeable is the best.  You proved it again.

Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alison,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your experience. Many times you hear about training and wonder if it&#8217;s worth the money. You helped illuminate the answer for me.   I recently switched from PCs to a old (1st gen) Macbook Pro and love it.  I&#8217;m a VoIP/Asterisk guy and now I&#8217;m starting to learn coding for the iPhone. Books are nice, but real face to face learning with people who are passionate and knowledgeable is the best.  You proved it again.</p>
<p>Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://alisothegeek.com/2009/07/im-officially-a-big-nerd-i-have-the-t-shirt-to-prove-it/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bishop - Did you end up going to the iPhone bootcamp? How did it go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bishop &#8211; Did you end up going to the iPhone bootcamp? How did it go?</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://alisothegeek.com/2009/07/im-officially-a-big-nerd-i-have-the-t-shirt-to-prove-it/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bishop!

To answer your question: I had object-oriented language experience before I went, but I new nothing of Objective-C, and there were still some OO concepts I didn&#039;t have a firm handle on before the class.

I took the Beginning iPhone Bootcamp course, which spends the first two days covering Objective-C from the ground up. It&#039;s a lot to handle, but as long as you have some programming experience (OO or not), you can make it through those two days and then understand Objective-C basics pretty well.

I definitely recommend that you take the Beginning course so you get those extra two days on Objective-C. Without that, I would have been completely lost the rest of the week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bishop!</p>
<p>To answer your question: I had object-oriented language experience before I went, but I new nothing of Objective-C, and there were still some OO concepts I didn&#8217;t have a firm handle on before the class.</p>
<p>I took the Beginning iPhone Bootcamp course, which spends the first two days covering Objective-C from the ground up. It&#8217;s a lot to handle, but as long as you have some programming experience (OO or not), you can make it through those two days and then understand Objective-C basics pretty well.</p>
<p>I definitely recommend that you take the Beginning course so you get those extra two days on Objective-C. Without that, I would have been completely lost the rest of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog on the BNR experience!  I am considering going to BNR for the iPhone training, but I have a question that I need answered first:

How imperative is it that I know another object-oriented language prior to taking the iPhone course?

I am a relative noob when it comes to coding, but I do have two (very basic) apps that I have managed to cobble together and publish on the app store using what I have learned online and in a couple of books.  Any insight you can give would be greatly appreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog on the BNR experience!  I am considering going to BNR for the iPhone training, but I have a question that I need answered first:</p>
<p>How imperative is it that I know another object-oriented language prior to taking the iPhone course?</p>
<p>I am a relative noob when it comes to coding, but I do have two (very basic) apps that I have managed to cobble together and publish on the app store using what I have learned online and in a couple of books.  Any insight you can give would be greatly appreciated!</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://alisothegeek.com/2009/07/im-officially-a-big-nerd-i-have-the-t-shirt-to-prove-it/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike! I&#039;m so excited for you going to the class!

To answer your questions, I unfortunately haven&#039;t gotten too much of a chance to put my new iPhone skills to use. I&#039;ve played around a little bit in my spare time, but I haven&#039;t had the time to fully develop an app yet. That being said, I still feel more than capable of doing so. Being sent home with all the class materials helps a TON—any time I feel like I&#039;m getting rusty, I just pull out the workbooks and go through one or two of the exercises again.

It&#039;s definitely worth the money (especially the 7-day class, if you don&#039;t already know Objective-C). I went from knowing absolutely nothing about iPhone programming to knowing more than enough to make a great app in just a week. One of these days I&#039;ll finally get around to releasing an app!

My favorite thing I took away from this class was the fact that I made 18 new friends in the development world. You&#039;ll be spending a week surrounded by people just as passionate about programming as you are, and they come from all sorts of careers and backgrounds (it sounds cheesy, but it&#039;s so awesome).

If you have any more questions, just let me know. I&#039;d be happy to talk more about the class over iChat or email if you want to know more. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike! I&#8217;m so excited for you going to the class!</p>
<p>To answer your questions, I unfortunately haven&#8217;t gotten too much of a chance to put my new iPhone skills to use. I&#8217;ve played around a little bit in my spare time, but I haven&#8217;t had the time to fully develop an app yet. That being said, I still feel more than capable of doing so. Being sent home with all the class materials helps a TON—any time I feel like I&#8217;m getting rusty, I just pull out the workbooks and go through one or two of the exercises again.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s definitely worth the money (especially the 7-day class, if you don&#8217;t already know Objective-C). I went from knowing absolutely nothing about iPhone programming to knowing more than enough to make a great app in just a week. One of these days I&#8217;ll finally get around to releasing an app!</p>
<p>My favorite thing I took away from this class was the fact that I made 18 new friends in the development world. You&#8217;ll be spending a week surrounded by people just as passionate about programming as you are, and they come from all sorts of careers and backgrounds (it sounds cheesy, but it&#8217;s so awesome).</p>
<p>If you have any more questions, just let me know. I&#8217;d be happy to talk more about the class over iChat or email if you want to know more. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://alisothegeek.com/2009/07/im-officially-a-big-nerd-i-have-the-t-shirt-to-prove-it/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alison,

I&#039;m going myself to the class at the end of this month, and I&#039;ve really enjoyed reading your day-by-day recaps.

You never did, though, come back and add a follow-up to this blog.

What&#039;s your take of the class now 6 months out? Was it worth the money? Did it really give your iPhone development rocket boosters? I&#039;m currently working on an iPhone app and I&#039;m really struggling with some of the foreign concepts (I&#039;m a .NET guy at the core). Will this class give me the understanding to come back as an iPhone Programming God?

Thanks!

p.s. If you don&#039;t want to write a whole new article, would you please send me an email with answers to my questions?

Thanks!

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alison,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going myself to the class at the end of this month, and I&#8217;ve really enjoyed reading your day-by-day recaps.</p>
<p>You never did, though, come back and add a follow-up to this blog.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s your take of the class now 6 months out? Was it worth the money? Did it really give your iPhone development rocket boosters? I&#8217;m currently working on an iPhone app and I&#8217;m really struggling with some of the foreign concepts (I&#8217;m a .NET guy at the core). Will this class give me the understanding to come back as an iPhone Programming God?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>p.s. If you don&#8217;t want to write a whole new article, would you please send me an email with answers to my questions?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Baggarley</title>
		<link>http://alisothegeek.com/2009/07/im-officially-a-big-nerd-i-have-the-t-shirt-to-prove-it/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Baggarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Alison, for capturing  the essence of what the week at Big Nerd Ranch was all about on your blog.  Great job!  It was great being a student with you and I look forward to seeing your apps in the store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Alison, for capturing  the essence of what the week at Big Nerd Ranch was all about on your blog.  Great job!  It was great being a student with you and I look forward to seeing your apps in the store.</p>
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